tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4750386441042458315.post5788820256417023303..comments2012-08-28T17:06:44.982-07:00Comments on navigio: CA 2011 CST Proficiency Rates by Grade and Parent Education Levelnavigiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07861268771539420461noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4750386441042458315.post-77764122937011566192012-03-22T14:45:08.060-07:002012-03-22T14:45:08.060-07:00I am interested in background information and anal...I am interested in background information and analysis if available. Given the strong correlation between education level of parents and school performance of kids, what are the more basic causes underlying education that contribute to improved education? <br />Are parents, along with their children better educated because of genetics? (I tend to think genetics play a minimal role if any. I have known siblings where one is bright and the other slow.)<br />Is culture a factor? (If yes, I would want to go a level lower and understand what in a culture are the key factors?)<br />Is it that because parents who are better educated, make more money and live in neighborhoods with better schools?<br />Is it that better educated parents spend more time educating kids during non-school time?<br />Is it that families of better educated parents are under less financial stress and can create a calmer atmosphere for pre-school development?<br />Is it that children of better educated parents have better vocabularies which teachers attribute to intelligence and thus have higher expectations of them?<br />These are just a couple possibilities off the top of my head. Would be interested in your thoughts.PoliticAlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03373345892798633375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4750386441042458315.post-65013039045520522072012-03-16T08:22:27.686-07:002012-03-16T08:22:27.686-07:00:-) Hi Politicali. Its funny, even though someti...:-) Hi Politicali. Its funny, even though sometimes I think this stuff is obvious, I love this graph for all sorts of reasons. <br /><br />The first and most obvious is how amazingly consistent the difference in parent education is. Another is where the decline to state people fall. (in some areas this line is also parallel with others but closer to non hs grad level and in many districts this group is a significant number--relevant because in some district their rates increase dramatically in upper grades). Another is the fact that there is a 3rd and 4th grade valley and peak that cannot be attributed to anything other than test design. :-P There is also a phenomenon that is not shown here directly but that is implied by this kind of breakdown. And that is race/ethnicity is not as much of a predictor in outcome as parent education level. This would have some implication if people understood it.. one of the real problems with california's data system, imho, is that it does not allow that kind of breakdown from the public data (it is sometimes possible to get it from the local districts though). <br /><br />But maybe the most interesting thing of all is how flat each of these lines is, relatively speaking anyway. for the most part, proficiency rates at 11th grade are about the same as in 3rd grade; not exactly, but more or less. Although there is clearly some dropoff in high school from the years preceding that (probably mostly attributed to high school kids finally realizing these tests dont mean anything to them) the fact that high school rates generally decline anyway helps to reinforce the point that often the makeup of many districts evolves over the grades. In our district, for example, the not hs grad and decline to state group make up less than 30% of our population in elementary school but closer to 50% in high school. <br /><br />And finally comparing schools on the opposite end of the spectrum in our district, we have one school that is 85% made up of kids with a parent who went to college, whereas we have another school where almost 70% of the kids dont have a parent who finished high school. You can imagine the difference in their scores. And the difference in the perception of the 'quality' of the school.navigiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861268771539420461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4750386441042458315.post-3686027898515650772012-03-09T16:34:33.399-08:002012-03-09T16:34:33.399-08:00Welcome back. Interesting statistics. Does this me...Welcome back. Interesting statistics. Does this mean that it's not only the intelligence and drive of the kid that matters? (trick question. )PoliticAlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03373345892798633375noreply@blogger.com